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Post by TheJoker Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:39 am

jolo_mat2008 wrote:hehe..ortega rocks..about 1 hour of practice lang sub 12 average na ko..haha..Smile ansaya..very intuitive pa yung pagbuo ng 1st layer..Razz pasensya na ah..guimond method tong thread pero nagaadvertise ako ng ortega..hehe..Razz lalang..dami kcng algs ng guimond eh..Razz

well okay po ORTEGA... kasi ortega ako eh... hehehehehhe... Very Happy:D:D:D:D

pero guimond is the way...

ako nga... from FRIDRICH with finger tricks eh sub12... dami ko kilala isa na si marccube... sub10 sa FRIDRICH... bangis ng finger tricks nya at recognition sa first layer...

then from fridrich to ORTEGA sub10... bilis... 1 week palang din me nag ORTEGA...

BUT... from ORTEGA to GUIMOND... sub8... although may inconsistentcy... practise na lang... especially recognition at look ahead...

hehhehehehehe... Very Happy:D:D:D
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Post by jolo_mat2008 Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:49 pm

@ the joker.. i had a feeling na mas mabilis talaga ang guimond..kumbaga petrus:ortega fridrich: guimond..Razz kasi heavier on algorithms ang guimond..so naisip ko..probably mas mabilis to kasi mas madaming cases samantalang ortega halos intuitive lalo na sa 1st layer..Razz magsswitch din ako sa guimond balang araw..pero i think ortega muna para sa RCPO..Smile para makasub10 average naman sa rcpo..sana..hehe..Smile tamad kasi ako magmemo ng algs..i don't think matatapos ko lahat ng algs ng guimond.Razz
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Post by ni09ne Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:26 am

my 1ng pll ang wala sa method ng guimond sa link ni kuya jonathan... Sad
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Post by TheJoker Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:01 pm

@jolo... yeah praktis lang talaga... ortega and guimond are almost the same for speed...

pinagkaiba lang nila is the first step... much faster ang guimond sa pagbuo ng first layer and the opposite layer... and you can predict pa the opposite layer para alam mo na gagawin mo sa 3rd step...

hirap explain eh... pag nagkita tayo cubemeet pakita ko sayo difference ng ortega at guimond sa first step... makikita mo dun lang lamang ang guimond sa ortega... the rest pareho lang po sila...

hehehhehehehe... Very Happy:D:D:D:D
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Post by jolo_mat2008 Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:56 pm

@ thejoker : sige po..pero di pa ko nakakapunta sa cubemeet eh..haha..pero in case pupunta ko..ikaw po agad hahanapint ko..haha..Razz eniwey..magsswitch ako sa guimond immediately after RCPO..Smile
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Post by luigiyotoko Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:27 am

i might improve my time here haha
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Post by xyborgcubinots Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:13 pm

gano kabilis un???
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Post by ni09ne Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:23 pm

masyado kayang nakakalito ang guimond..almost same lang kac ang table 1 sa table 2 sa step 3...pero ok xa kac pagnagawa mo n ang step 1 at step 2 alam mo n agad ang lalabas kung anong step 3..wenks! kakalito b?ahehe!fastest time ko sa ortega 5.68 pll skip un..6days cubing palang ng 2x2...pero i know some guimond na...Very Happy
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Post by ynajatrice Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:58 am

guys, naisip ko lang na mas maganda yatang mag-optimize ng algs sa ortega method (applicable din sa guimond) para sa less cube rotations

kumbaga, "if you see it as is, solve as is"

mas maganda ang times natin pag ganun

baka maging sub-5 tayong lahat

hehehe

so kung may suggestions kayo para sa "multi-angled" algs ng mga cases sa ortega at guimond, post niyo lang dito

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Post by pajodaep Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:24 am

hay, mag-aaral na talaga ako ng Ortega Method after RCPO2k8... konting motivation na lang talaga siguro...
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Post by TheJoker Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:20 pm

waaaah... my fingertricks is sucks in 2x2...

i'm using a hybrid of ortega and guimond... pero ortega first... kung may makikita akong i can use ortega i will use it first...

tapos check ko din kung may guimond na mas madali... pag meron i will use guimond...

pero kung wala me makitang ortega... i will use guimond...

i'm using the two faster method pero i can get my average lower than 8seconds... waaaaahhh... unstable sub10... grabe...

i saw sa isang cubemeet... si marcube ata... using fridrich... grabe finger tricks... sub10...

then i saw somebody solving 2x2... then i compared mine... grabe... bano fingertricks ko... it really sucks...

hehehehehehhe... Very Happy:D:D:D
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Post by ynajatrice Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:52 pm

bano rin ako sa fingertricks kuya joker

hehehe

binabawi ko na lang sa recognition

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